Written 1878 (18 March)
Serialized 1878 (6 April - 11 May), Light
Published in a book 1882 (December), Why Frau Frohmann Raised Her
Prices; and Other Stories, Wm Isbister
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:19:22 -0400 (EDT) This is really the same story as Frau Frohmann and her prices,
isn't it? A woman of the older generation, unable to change an
old viewpoint, is prepared to cut off her nose, etc. In the name
of family duty and honor, Mrs Miles is set to ruin the lives of
three people.
These two stories were written two & three years after TWWLN,
and I want to place their purpose with respect to the novel if I
can. We have examined what led to the creation of the novel; I
wonder what kind of follow-on Trollope intended with these two
stories? (Yes, I know, he was earning a living!) Is it just that
he asks his older readers of means to prepare for more change
than what he has already catalogued?
There are several references to Mrs Miles' traditional sense of
duty, but I will set down two: On p. 417. she is determined to
'do my part towards maintaining that order of things which has
made my country more blessed than others.' (We can hear strains
of Elgar in the background!) Then, on p. 437, Trollope summarizes
that Mrs Miles' generation 'had objects which I thought were sacred
and holy, to which I had been wedded through many years. They
have had to be thrust aside.'
Well, he couldn't have been clearer had he sat down to write a
proper essay!
I'll leave to others the detailing of Miss Gregory's woes, but
Trollope likes to include this kind of a character, doesn't he?
He doesn't think much of the kind of sacrifices that society has
forced upon the Miss Gregorys.
Fine story!
Bart To Trollope-l
April 28, 1998
Re: Short Story, "The Lady of Launay:" Multilated Lives
I have to admit I disliked this story but cannot deny it has
power. I have never come across much commentary
on it.
This yet another which
revolves what seems to have been an obsessive theme
in Trollope's later work which may be phrased as, Does
the individual who falls in love with someone who is
beneath him (or her) in rank have the right to marry
that someone? From what one reads in most contemporary
literature (serious and popular), and from what one
sees and reads in non-fictional mass media, if
there are people today who are torn over whether they
should marry for love when the object is not presentable
or of a lower class or less well-educated or simply
poor with few prospects for good remunerative
employment, they keep silent about it or disguise
such a conflict from themselves so that it is
expressed in more self-flattering terms. Thus
this Trollopian dilemma could at best make them
uncomfortable, and at worst seem hopelessly
obsolete, otiose and distasteful, especially since
Trollope wants us at least to enter into the
feelings of those who demand that the young
people of a given family give up personal
fulfillment for family aggrandizement as a duty.
That Trollope does not mean us to condone the
behavior of Mrs Miles he makes clear when he
says of the young girl with no money, no
status, no connections, Bessy
He underlines this with his characterization of
the elderly poor lonely spinster, Miss Gregory,
as someone who has led a
"mutilated" existence (p 415). Mutilated
is strong. He also characterizes Mrs Miles's
temptation to disinherit her son as "evil."
When Mrs Miles is "strengthening herself
to disinherit her son should he marry Bessy
Pryor, Trollope calls this a "strengthening
herself for evil" (p 427). He also says her
motive for this was also "a desire for
masterdom" as opposed to an "honest
wish to do what was right" which is in
this paragraph defined as letting the young
people marry one another (p 427).
So why does he write such stories? Is
he seeking to persuade those people
of his own generation and that of his
parents who he knows act out of
such "evil" motives to aggrandize
a family fortune at whatever cost
to the individual involved including
a "mutilated" life. Perhaps. Is he thinking
of his older son: there is a tiny piece of evidence
Henry fell in love with someone "well beneath
him" and Trollope shipped him off to Australia
to forget the lady. It worked.
I wonder if anyone would like to comment on
this. I think it a theme which obsesses
Trollope in his later works. Think of
Lady Anna, of Marion Fay,
of Mr Scarborough's Castle. Why does
he fasten on it so? The text of Lady
Anna would seem to support my view
of why Trollope wrote this way, but the
text of Marion Fay is more ambiguous.
If we see Trollope as earnesly trying
to persuade the Mrs Miles's of this
world--and Josephine Murray, Countess
Lovel's (Lady Anna's mother) and
fathers of sons like Lord Hampstead--we
could say the point of the story is
that Mrs Miles has led a mutilated
life herself. She has denied herself
every personal pleasure and thus
driven herself into the arms of
Bessy as her one consolation,
pitiful clinging Bessy. She then
almost cut herself off from that.
There is also the question of
whether this idea of duty really
ever controlled anyone's behavior.
Is it something Trollope
is imagining? Is this bogeyman
real?
Ellen Moody
Re: Short Stories: Frau Frohmann and Mrs Miles Compared
Bart has suggested that there is a strong similarity between
the story we read a couple of weeks ago, "Why Frau Frohmann
Raised Her Prices" and this week's, "The Lady of Launay."
I am as much struck by the differences as the similarities,
but a comparison will reveal corresponding elements in each.
We have two old women. Each one has in her past
always controlled and dominated everyone else
who was in close contact with her, and she is
in part motivated by a desire to continue that
control and domination by insisting that her views
be those everyone else live by. Each one elevates
her views into "duty" or the "good." Each one
struggles, and each one loses because she
finds she cannot (to quote Hoff the Butcher)
"swim against the stream" AT's
Later Short Stories, 1995 Oxford World
Paperback, edJSutherland, p 342). No
individual can deny everyone else their
heart's desires and hope to remain
their friends.
There the resemblance stops. And it stops
with what is the heart desires of everyone else
in Frau Frohman's community and Mrs Miles's
son and adopted daughter. In the one case
Frau Frohman believes that what will count
most with most people is their emotional
bond and friendship with others. She believes
loyalty and love will win out against money
and aggrandizement of the world's prestige
and prizes. Thus in scene after scene what
we read is her coming up against hardness.
She sees grim faces everywhere. People
will prefer to raise their income for a greater
status and luxuries more than they prefer
to remain in close friendship with someone
else. There is little sentiment in this story,
except of course in the blind and partly
self-deluded heart of the Frau. She has
to see that she too must choose her
profit first. Or she will be eaten up
alive. Bankrupt. Left alone in a small
house because she cannot afford to
be Lady Bountiful.
Trollope offers us a fable about capitalism
and why it emerges from elements
innate to human nature.
In "The Lady of Launay", Mrs Miles wants to
get people to go against their emotional
nature in order to support some notion
of order, of aristocracy. There is no
danger that by marrying Bessy Philip
will starve or lose his personal prestige
or one iota of luxury--as long of course
as Mrs Miles does not resort to that
evil step of cutting him off as heir.
She wants everyone to deny a different
element in human nature to support
an ideal of hierarchy whose exclusionary
basis is "blood" and land and family
history. These are not the same things
as money. No-one knows this more
intently than Trollope. That's why the
word "evil." While Frau Frohman thinks
people value their emotional bonds with
one another and will be true to friends
(which includes telling when one's salary
has gone up), Mrs Miles wants the young
people to mutilate their emotional
bonds that have grown over time.
Thus in scene after scene what we see
Mrs Miles coming up against is emotionalism.
Bessy weeps; she wraps her arms around
Mrs Miles; we are told of intense love scenes
between the lovers. It is Mrs Miles who
is not sentimental; everyone else in the
story is--except of course the servants
who are operating according to the way
of the world we find in Frau Frohman:
whoever has money and power gets their
friendship.
The story is not cloying because Trollope
is wise enough to keep all scenes of
love-making short and to emphasize
the obstacles in the way. He is also
wise enough to emphasize how hard
is Mrs Miles and keep us in Mrs Miles's
mind, as in internal soliloquys like
"who was this girl, that had been picked
out of a gutter..." (p 426). Bessy
writes no letters. The depiction of Miss
Gregory is also a marvel of tact.
Thus in the second story Trollope offers
us a fable about love and bonds and
how these are necessary to people
or they will their life destitute of
any happiness or joy.
For my part when such a theme is
presented polemically, as
part of an argument against a
false notion of duty, the author has to
be careful not to come
across too strongly, too sentimentally,
and since Trollope is determined to give
us an happy ending, he falls into this.
I was made uncomfortable by the story
I know I am not in
danger of being mutilated in
the manner of Philip and Bessy
because my choice of a marriage partner
was independent of the cash nexus
upon which my girlhood depended.
we are ourselves wholly dependent
many of us on the cash nexus.
Ellen Moody
The following was posted by Jill Spriggs during the week we read "Alice
Dugdale"; since the first paragraph is germaine to "The Lady of Launay"
I place it here; for the rest see "Alice Dugdale".
Subject: Short Stories: "The Lady of Launay" and "Alice Dugdale" I never did post on "The Lady of Launay" last week, because, quite frankly, I
did not like it. It was so gooily cloying that I felt I needed an insulin
shot to recover. As a mother of three daughters, two grown, I wish to inform
all that the few occasions my children and I have cried in each others' arms,
it was a gut wrenching experience with nothing sweet about it. As a person
not demonstrative by nature, I found one semi hysterical female, and one
trying desperately hard not to be (thus defying her "true womanly nature"),
revolting. What Philip saw in either of these saps, I know not; in his place
I would have run away to sea. Ocean going gales can have nothing on those two
when going full force ...
Jill
From: The Hansens
Subject: Short Stories "The Lady of Launay"
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"The reader will understand, perhaps,
that I, the writer of this little history, think her
to have been fit to beocme the wife of any man
who might have been happy enough to win her
young heart, however blue his blood" (AT's
Later Short Stories, 1995 Oxford World
Paperback, edJSutherland, p 390).
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